Comments reveal profound frustration and anger over rising crime rates in Bihar, linked to political failures, especially targeting figures like Lalu Prasad Yadav. The public expresses a desperate need for accountability and reform, highlighting both the historical and ongoing issues contributing to a pervasive sense of disillusionment and a desire for change.

Bihar Government

Lalu Prasad Yadav

Patna capital city hote hue bhi sbse jyada murder rate k saath. Samsya gambheer hai fir

WishFit2544

Red color hota map. Essa lag raha hai pani ke survey ki details hai

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virginboy98

West champaran 8s way better than I had thought.

Cute_Prior1287

Bhai Arrah aise galat lists mein kaahe top karta h Khali 😞

Electronic-Ad9612

Need better police reforms better rules it's going out of hand but here everyone has ego issues they think everything going good here it will be smart city. I am sorry but you are in a delusion

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Patna and Aarah on top because of Balu mafias

The_unfunny_mimer

Saw map of Bihar for the 1st time why tf patna is stretched like this??

Can't you just merge the areas in nearby districts, for ease of administrative work of the ppl living there..

Exciting_Stranger_69

Efficient-Cook6098

National-Today5945

What is arwal doing so differently that others are not ?

Consistent_Good6398

Disastrous_Read1581

CreepyMix2049

For context, India's murder rate fluctuates around 2.9

biogeek31

Dparmar006

Bihar would be a great place to sell guns in

sayzitlikeitis

Patna is on top cuz, murders are reported in Patna; elsewhere people mostly get away with it

Ashuu_69

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Dry state hone k baad to Bihar se log jab dusre state pe jate hai to sabse pehle daru hi peete hai fir baki important kaam..

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The factionalism was only because of upper castes as they did not want any kind of power to be given to backward castes.The beuracracy was with upper castes, the ministers all upper castes.


Thanks to upper castes of bihar and up that other states got army of labourers 

Karpuri thakur implemented OBC reservation in 70s.Agar wo hua nahi hota to shayad main bhi kisi bhumihar ke yaha naukar bana hota haha

Modiji told right today that congress was the biggest enemy of OBCs.
Nehru was the biggest enemy of eastern india

I always say that lalu was a reaction to upper caste dominance.pre lalu bihar was made for upper castes by upper castes.Hope no upper caste becomes CM of this state

Early 70s also include the emergency so it's not like condition in other states was also good

Impressive-Aide-7540

Bhaiyon ab caste wagairah ka time gaya. Ye baat dono taraf ke logon ko samajhna hoga. Humlogon ko saath aana hoga nhi to center waale humlogon ko Sirf voting ka ground bana kar chod denge. 

Try to move away from casteism 🙏. Humaare Baap dada ka time gaya. Ab let’s focus on how we can build this state. Let’s try to do welfare for all. Reservation wagairah 5% population ko bhi nhi affect kar rha.

Apne ko jo mile jeevan mein Usko merit aur hard work par taulein. Bihari gaali hai bhai aur humlog sab ki yahi identity hai

indianspoiler

A friend was working as a CBSE teacher in Bihar, she had one boy(student) bring katta in her class . The house where she stayed was quarters, thieves would even steal used soaps in the bathroom(Old construction, so toilet bathrooms were built seperately) apart from other things which was kept out open. 

Her job was transferable so she was very happy to have got shifted out.

Crime still persists in Bihar

Overall-Resolve-3807

OpenShutDone

West Bihar is more developed in terms of HDI, Education, Poverty, crime rate but still the most ignored region of Bihar.

Sab project patna, darbhanga ja raha hai..

Thats the region IDL Bihar govt.

Adrikshit

Khademul-Islam

Seemanchal has place like kishanganj nd katihar bordering Bangladesh, has lot of illegal immigrant. Below average lifestyle, high poverty rate. 
The situation is kishanganj is even worst, idk why but people keep giving votes to congress despite they are making no progress to district, it's their muslim votebank. 
Also there's good politician like Akhtarul Iman but he joined conservative political party. There's no good restraunt, its subpar level of district. 
When I first visited purnea i was astonished to see how developed it's compared to kishanganj.. Jameen aashman ki difference hai. 
If jan suraj party will appoint a reliable candidate who don't do politics on hindu muslim, upper lower caste rather the development of seemanchal, our whole support will be to him. Gareebi se nikalne k lie maseeha ki jarurat hai ab.

Reddit_Explorer_777

Border areas are becoming hellhole due to Bangladeshi immigrants. Biharis save your women and future now

IndependenceAny8863

I am from West Champaran, and I can confirm that the numbers are not true. I have heard and seen various incidences of R∆pe, most of them don't get reported and when reported the culprits just cross the border to nepal for a few months until the case cools down. Plus the amount of marriages that happen to cover it up, if someone gets R∆ped and villagers or parents comes to know about it. They will either marry her up with the person who R∆ped her or someone else in far away village (Ganga Paar tbh).

Ramdulari_ka_hubby

The rape was happening all over the world but sudden specific geographical peoples was targeted.i don't know why?

Eastern_Guitar_6618

I never doubted this data the more we go towards the jharkhand the "Bihari" curse effect be more powerful like illiteracy, ill behaviour and crime. I personally believe that the west part is more educated mature and rich no doubt i still don't believe some bihar news.

Yadav_Creation

Not taking any sides, but just saying a possibility of how both arguments can be true.

10 incidents in a city, 50% reported = 5 incidents.
100 incidents in a village, 10% reported = 10 incidens.

So even with a low percentage of cases registered, a rural area with low literacy and weak policing can have more cases per head with high enough incidents happening.

This is just a hypothetical explanation for making both statements true, approaching it as a puzzle.
No opinion on what the reality is because I have no idea of a rural place in Bihar, urban areas are pretty much the same in most places.

saraman04

Lmao if you believe in such reports then you are moron 

Tumhe lagta hai ki gaav dehat ke koi lower caste mein kisi ka rape hogya toh gaav wale report karne denge lol ? 

Most of the cases go unreported .. what worse is that most don't even know what constitutes to a rape ...

PZYCLON369

forced-program

Now multiply these number by 10 and you will get real numbers..

Most such cases go unreported because of fear of loosing reputation, rapists having financial/political power, and for variety of different reasons.

No-Tall-Tea

Can anyone tell, how to make such maps if you have the data.

Silver_Ad1638

YelloWishTan

EngineeringFamous562

So only females are raped. Wake up to reality

IntelligentVisual955

Guess the demographics of the districts in red? 

Suspicious_House_275

Given my origins in Katihar, Bihar, and my awareness of the challenges in collecting accurate crime data, I find the source of this information dubious. Please provide a credible reference to support this claim.

Fuckhogayadude

Today's top 5 states estimate share( FY 24-25)

Maharashtra - 12.95%


Tamil nadu -9.56 %


Karnataka - 8.6%



Gujarat- 8.45%


UP- 7.6%

Bihar Up dono fake samajwadi state leadership ke karan duba

Rhosine

the day bihar comes out of caste politics, its medieval traditional practices and stand against misoginy... then only it may be able to compete with other states

PassengerPopular2114

In 1950s South Indians are very very poor

For better employment South Indians migrate to bihar, west Bengal, maharashtra

Migration is continues to 1990s after economics reforms migration is dramatically reduced lot

1947 to 1990 great period for north India states like bihar west Bengal maharashtra

Terrible-Finding7937

doing great is a stretch.   
1. population share of erstwhile bihar was some 11%  
2. Bihar had Jharkhand, which with low population rates and most of Bihar's industrial output. Without Jharkhand, Bihar has a much higher population density and even lower industrial output

jamshedpuri

Pulling up stats that are almost a century old is not gonna prove your point. The state government is the one the to blame for the current state of Bihar. The politicians are corrupted. I’m not saying that corruption isn’t prevalent elsewhere but it peaks in Bihar. Bihar has been the most centrally funded state for quite some time now yet no progress has been made. The earlier you realise the root problem the better for you guys. That being said, I adore your culture and traditions and look forward to its betterment.

Ash_Unhappy

Most of the damage was done by Freight Equalization Policy, Brainchild of rotten politicians and dumb bureaucracy

violent-buddha

  Actually, this should coincide with growth in share of non Agricultural part of GDP. States in the south grew because of manufacturing and IT, Bihar didn’t have any. So it kept losing ground.

enygma_05

Bihar failed to catch up. The southern states ensured
1. Business friendly environment 
2. Security 
3. Corrupt but to a lesser extent than Bihar 
4. Education 

That's the magic formula I believe

Most importantly, Vision

the 1st CM of Bihar, Shri Krishna Singh ji.... what a legend!! man had such huge vision about a modern bihar in 1950s... which our present day bihari politicians can't even dream about, right from capitalist reforms like building industries to socialism.... he was an all-rounder, present day all industries in jharkhand were established in his tenure.... we need another person like him to make state better

shaglevel_infinite69

The audacity to call out central government for this🤡

If anyone is to blame, it is the people of Bihar, for repeatedly electing the Jungle Raaj mafias and voting on the basis of caste. I am from Bihar, but they deserve it tbh where caste is more prioritised than development.

80% of total coal of India was coming from Bihar, this will be a significant factor of decrease in GDP after 2000 partition.

deadiiii

Yeah bihar was doing great then socialist leaders started getting attention in bihar and after that we don't have one majority government which is the biggest reason for the underdeveloped of bihar.

We had 14 cms from 1967-1990 , most of them only served 1-2 years . So the main focus was saving their government rather than developing state.After then lalu comes into the power and we miss the golden opportunity in name of social justice.

lazy_engineerr

Bihar's output was mostly coming from the mines that are in Jharkhand.

Bihar simply missed out on the manufacturing sector growth, and is still very much out of the IT sector boom. No one stopped Bihar, others just surpassed it.

There are people in my circle who are trying really hard to set up a start-up in Bihar. But corruption and crime is a real deal breaker.

Corruption is present everywhere, but in bihar the goons don't even want to let the hem mature to start stealing some of her eggs. They just jump at it, and try to turn it into a tangadi kabab.

Tough-Difference3171

Fun facts for the OP:
-) Bihar wasn’t the only state to be adversely affected by FEP. The states of MP, Jharkhand and parts or UP too were adversely effected.
-)If all of underdevelopment in Bihar is because of FEP, it asserts that if Bihar never had those “resources” in the first place, it would still be where it is today; meaning the only way Bihar can develop is by selling natural resources. States without such resources have outperformed Bihar in every aspect.
-) India’s GDP composition during 1947-50 before introduction of Industrial Policy, 1950 was primarily agricultural and accrued to labour. FEP in the context stole nothing much because nothing much was produced in the period itself. Today we produce over 10 times what we produced then. The outflow of resources that Bihar boasts, in absolute terms was very minimal.
 
Post 1950-1980s during the Hindu rate of growth of 3.5% much of such growth was fuled by population growth of 2.6% having no actual increase in Per Capita Income. Growth spurt of FY1980-81 at 5.6% was nothing but private liberalisation in telecommunications added with right wing’s pro business initiatives.

India was stagnant till 1991 due to Psyco-socialism. Bihar is stagnant till today. You causation of underdevelopment in Bihar is biased towards an external locus, FEP, where it should be towards Power dynamics of Bihar. What you vote for is more important than who you vote for. 
And Bihar Votes for socialism, reservation and casteism. 

Nothing personal, I am from Bengal and we here vote for ₹1500 (not me atleast) or we are just denied right to vote by coercion (happens in booth capturings). I was just getting facts straight.

hahaa_hardy

I have been to Bihar many times before because of my roots, and trust me when I say this central government is not the problem

GullibleHawk1842

Simply accept the fact that Other states grew much faster !!

itsmePriyansh

If center is ruining everything ever since independence, what is state government doing? Is state government so powerless and unimportant that you don't even want to blame them anymore?

Winter2712

Along with caste based politics in bihar where lalu yadav and his jungle raj , he fkin delayed admissions in your state as he wanted people of "upper caste" not in institutes for equality

Glittering-Waltz1851

It wasn't actually because this data includes Jharkhand also and both the states combined are significantly bigger than many Indian states in terms of population.

Illustrious-Egg-3183

Those stats mean nothing, they are before the biggest industrial development movement that happened in india, the movement is what actually caused the states which are now at the top to progress as it revealed the true character of the states and its people, you simply can't blame the central govt for how the people in the state behave

Fantastic-Power5930

WB also.. They are not releasing the money

Any_Cucumber2866

Honestly I wish India had the US style federalism. If it did, Bihar would have been in a better place

Inside_Inspection321

Wealth concentrated among 
"Wealth concentrated among a few ultra-high-net-worth individuals (UHNIs) doesn't necessarily indicate a wealthy state."

Or, more concisely:

"Wealth inequality doesn't equate to state prosperity."


1. Wealth disparity: Concentration of wealth among a select few can mask widespread poverty and inequality.
2. Economic diversity: A state's economic health depends on diverse industries, employment opportunities, and income distribution.
3. Social indicators: Factors like education, healthcare, and infrastructure quality better reflect a state's overall well-being.


Example:


Consider two states:


State A: 5 UHNIs with combined wealth of 100 billion, but 20% of the population lives below the poverty line.
State B: No UHNIs, but a strong middle class, low poverty rate (5%), and excellent public services.


State B is arguably more prosperous, despite lacking ultra-wealthy individual Here are some statistics highlighting Bihar's economic journey since the 1960s:


*1960s:*

1. Bihar's GDP: ₹1,430 crores (1960-61)
2. Per capita income: ₹245 (1960-61)
3. Literacy rate: 21.1% (1961 Census)
4. Poverty rate: 63.2% (1960-61)
5. Agricultural growth rate: 2.3% (1960-65)







Contrary to popular perception, caste and identity politics did not originate in Bihar. States like Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, and Kerala pioneered these movements, shaping India's socio-political landscape.


*Tamil Nadu: A Pioneer in Reservation Politics*

Tamil Nadu has a long history of caste-based reservation, dating back to 1921. The Justice Party, founded in 1916, advocated for non-Brahmin rights and implemented reservations in education and government jobs.


- 1921: Tamil Nadu introduces 50% reservation for non-Brahmins.
- 1947: The Madras Presidency (now Tamil Nadu) enacts the Communal Government Order, reserving 50% of government jobs for non-Brahmins.
- 1989: Tamil Nadu increases reservation to 69% (including 18% for SC/ST).
- 2020: Supreme Court upholds Tamil Nadu's 50% reservation for OBCs.


*Maharashtra: Phule's Legacy and Ambedkar's Impact*

Maharashtra's caste and identity politics have deep roots:


- 1873: Jyotirao Phule establishes the Satyashodhak Samaj, advocating for social equality and education.
- 1920s: B.R. Ambedkar emerges as a key figure, leading the Dalit movement and shaping the Indian Constitution.


*Kerala: Early Adoption of Reservation*

Kerala's communist movement and social reformers paved the way for caste-based reservation:


- 1936: The Cochin Princeley State introduces reservation for backward classes.
- 1957: Kerala adopts 40% reservation for OBCs and SC/ST.


*Other States: Early Adopters of Caste-Based Reservation*

- Andhra Pradesh (1930s): Introduced reservation for backward classes.
- Karnataka (1940s): Implemented reservation for SC/ST and OBCs.


*Bihar's Late Entry*

Bihar's caste and identity politics gained prominence relatively late:


- 1970s: The Bihar Movement, led by Jayaprakash Narayan, focused on social justice and equality.
- 1990s: The rise of Lalu Prasad Yadav's Rashtriya Janata Dal (RJD) and the implementation of Mandal Commission recommendations.


Caste and identity politics have a rich history in India, predating Bihar's involvement. Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Kerala, and other states pioneered reservation policies, shaping the country's socio-political landscape.


Facts and Figures:

- Tamil Nadu: 50.5% reservation (30% OBC, 18% SC, 1% ST, 1.5% DNC)
- Maharashtra: 52% reservation (32% OBC, 13% SC, 7% ST)


So many numpties here giving example of Gujarat model lol
Even Modi has stopped mentioning it

The Gujarat model is often criticized for its inability to effectively address poverty, malnourishment, and inequality, making it a poor example to counter Bihar's similar issues.

*Poverty and Malnourishment:*
Gujarat's economic growth has not trickled down to its marginalized communities, with 31.7% of its rural population living below the poverty line ¹. Malnourishment is also prevalent, particularly among children under five, with wasting and stunting affecting 19.7% and 24.4% respectively ¹.

*Inequality:*
The state's development model has been criticized for exacerbating income inequality. The top 10% of the population holds 47.6% of the state's income, while the bottom 10% holds a mere 0.2% ¹. This disparity is particularly concerning in rural areas.


People talk so much rubbish here man can't do even basic research 
No wonder politicians make merry

3kush3

This comment section was such a fun read 😂

Nearby-Cabinet_9786

Are y'all sure it has to do with the central government alone, or was it the after effects of the LPY government that y'all had elected back in the day?

YeahRightCIA

rahulTo9273314

For real after having gov for 30 yrs  from both state nd center ,they don't make a good initiative that would work till now

Disastrous_Sky_88

But that was Bihar+Jharkhand. By looking at data of port partition it can be concluded that only 2/3 of it was of Bihar

can-u-fkn-not

the__marcos

Bihar used to be an industrial state, place of entrepreneurship. Mills, factories etc.

Then came Lalu raj and everyone had to pay and the people who didn't pay got shot so the rest of them stayed away as well.

Just five years ago there was a shooting in a very reputed and old family managed shop, right in the middle of the city, at 8pm, 2km away from the nearest police station, and mine is the district headquarter. DM &amp; SP live 6km from the location.

Crime, organised crime is Bihar's problem. We need a Yogi-like administration for at least five years for this to work. 

Bihar has shit reputation for outside investors right now, government does this and investors will come, there's more than enough land and cheap manpower here.

oldmonk32

Then bihar= bihar+ jharkhand now. So, its more complicated than it looks. Cause then there was gundagardi. So, it could have been better than 7.8. And jharkhand still has everything that it had earlier and gundagardi is not so apparent now. But political corruption is there too. So, that has potential but still there is time for a real development there.

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EntertainmentTall166

ShotAd2720

Whom to blame ? Only central governments ? 
Can you mention some of the biased policies you are talking about.

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